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    Cesarean Birth: Choose Your Words Carefully





    Birth is the sudden opening of a window, through which you look out upon a stupendous prospect. For what has happened? A miracle. You have exchanged nothing for the possibility of everything.

    ~William MacNeile Dixon

     

    I’ve had two cesarean sections. I’m part of the growing minority of women in the United States who had a surgical birth. At last count, the rate of c-sections to vaginal births was about 1 out of every three. In some states, like my own fair state of New Jersey, the c-section rate is just a hair shy of 40% (as of 2009; the last year for which I was able to find concrete records).

     

    I also happen to be part of the other minority group – “crunchy parents”. It presents a conundrum for me. How do I advocate for natural things – like birth – when I’m the recipient of two cesarean sections, without devaluing my own births, nor alienating my cesarean-receiving sisters, nor eschewing my crunchy ideals? It’s a thin line to walk. And it isn’t always straight as there are so many variables when it comes to birth.

     

     

    Here’s the truth. The increase in cesarean sections is alarming. Cesarean sections present dangers for mothers and babies that just aren’t there in natural births. Advocacy for natural birth needs to continue.  Work needs to carry on to help women feel empowered in their decision-making surrounding their own births, to increase the number of doulas and midwives available to assist women in birth, and to make home-birthing a safe and legal option for women.

     

    Within advocacy comes support; and the cause of my writing today. We need to be SUPPORTING women – not tearing them down. Too often, I fear that advocacy in natural birth trends towards guilt, shame, and anger.  I’ve read things written about mothers who’ve given birth via cesarean section that make me cringe; that make me SO ANGRY. Women who have had c-sections shouldn’t feel the need to addendum their birth story with excuses, or explanations for their birth. Never should a woman be made to feel shamed, or at fault for how her birth culminated. A birth is a birth is a birth. At the end, every mother who has given birth has the shared experience of growing a birthing her baby. There’s shouldn’t be a dividing line, based on HOW you’ve given birth.

     

    Natural birth is the most likely way to encourage a positive outcome for both mom and baby. There are ways to teach about natural birth and its benefits to both mother and baby, without alienating the very people natural birth will help. There are things you can do to educate and encourage and choices to be made which can increase likelihood of a natural birth outcome. But, it’s important to keep in mind, at it’s core, birth is unpredictable and specifically un-plan-able. The variables are myriad: The ways a woman reacts to pain, fear, anticipation; The support she has through pregnancy and in labor; Health conditions she may have – physical and mental and emotional; Past experiences she’s had – all play a role in how birth plays out.  

     

    It every case, birth is one of the most precious, amazing, challenging, awesome, and MEMORABLE times in a woman’s life. Natural birth advocacy should always be about helping and lifting up women, not humiliation. Empowering women, not disenfranchising.  Above all, supporting women, no matter what choices are made, what direction birth takes, what the outcome is.

     

    So to that end, here’s what I thought I’d do. I’ve prepared a list of things you SHOULDN’T say to (or about) a mother who’s given birth via cesarean section.  These are things which I’ve either heard personally, anecdotally, or seen written. But because I don’t want to dwell on the negative, I’ve also compiled a list of things you SHOULD say to a c-section mom (or one who’s about have one).

     

    Without further ado...

     

    Things you SHOULDN’T say to a mother who’s given birth via cesarean section:

     

    1) “Your C-section wasn’t technically a birth; it was a surgery.”

     

    Yes, cesarean is a major surgery. But a cesarean section is ALSO a method of giving birth. By virtue of the definition of birth:

     

    (From Merriam-Webster)

    birth. noun.

    1 a: the emergence of a new individual from the body of its parent (check!)

     

    birth. verb.

    1 a: to bring forth (check!)

    2 b: to give birth to (check!) 

     

    birth. adjective.

    1 a: biological (check!)

     

    It ALSO is birth by virtue of the fact that mothers celebrate their children’s birth days, not their surgery days. A mother who has given birth via cesarean has as much right to birth as her vaginally-birthing sisters. Saying - or even suggesting - that a cesarean section isn't a birth not only makes you sound ridiculous, it's just plain hurtful, so please, PLEASE don’t do it.

     

     

    2) “Your baby was ripped/torn/cut/pulled/forced out of you - before she was ready.”

     

    We don’t always know what prompts labor, and we don’t always have control over the way our birth progresses.  Sometimes, babies come before they are ready. Sometimes, signals point to babies needing help moving earthside. Sometimes, that help is a surgical birth. Regardless, no one needs to be reminded in such a callous way that they were sliced into, nor should any woman have to face the implication or suggestion that was in some way her fault. The vast majority of pregnant mothers do everything they can to ensure a safe birth for their baby. Their decisions are typically based on the knowledge they have at the time.  There’s no room for inflammatory hyperbole.

     

    As an aside, if a mother wants to talk to YOU about her feelings that her baby may have arrived before he was ready, or that her birth felt less than consensual or not as calm as she would have wished; please listen. Honor her feelings. There are unfortunately cases of women who aren’t treated well in birth and whose wishes aren’t respected. But even in those cases, exaggerating the negative isn’t helpful.

     

    3) “Be happy; at least you have a healthy baby.”

     

    I understand when this is said, it’s intended to be comforting. But really, saying this is a denial of feelings. No mother who is mourning the loss of her birth-as-she-planned-it wants to be brushed off. And every mother is grateful their child is healthy. Having a cesarean is typically NOT a planned event, and even when it is, it’s not what most women choose (in spite of what the media likes to portray – women as “insisting” on elective cesareans for “convenience” reasons). Disappointment or concerns over birth are valid! Listen, reassure, comfort; don't brush aside feelings.

     

    4) “If you’d done (or didn’t do) x, y, or z, you could have birthed your baby vaginally.”

     

    Look, unless you are the attending midwife or doctor, you JUST CAN’T KNOW whether X, Y, or Z would have resulted in a different outcome. Even if you WERE the attending midwife or doctor, you can’t change NOW what has already happened, so keep it to yourself. 

     

    In birth advocacy there is certainly a time and a place for analyzing your birth story, for thinking over what you wish had gone another way, what you’d like to try differently, what you want to do the next time, or even what you wished you’d tried. There needs to be time for grieving and for accepting and healing. But that’s for YOUR OWN birth. It’s not your right to analyze anyone else’s birth for them. Ever.

     

     

    Things you SHOULD say to a mother who’s given birth via cesarean section:

     

    1) “Good job, mama.”

     

    Just that. No matter what transpired, no matter how the birth progressed, no matter how far "off birth plan" things went, a new baby was born to a pregnant mama, and that mama deserves a pat on the back. End of story. If that mama wants to talk about her birth, let her do so. Support her. Be there for her. Without judgment.

     

    2) “How can I help you?”

     

    Cesarean births present unique challenges to mothers and babies. It can be difficult to walk in the first few days post partum. Holding baby, changing your own position, breastfeeding, regular self-care, all can be more challenging after the stress of birth AND a major abdominal surgery. Many doctors advise weeks post-partum without resuming regular activities – like climbing stairs, lifting anything other than the baby, or driving.

     

    Personally, even though I felt my recoveries were quick and relatively easy, there were certain physical challenges that were just a drag. I couldn’t do laundry, I couldn’t comfortably make it upstairs to my bedroom, I couldn’t move baby to where I wanted her to be when I wanted her to be there. Having someone there (husband, doula, friend) to pick up around the house, entertain siblings, cook meals, change diapers/clothes, can make all the difference in the world!

     

    3) “If you need to talk, I’m here to listen.”

     

    Every mother likes to talk about her birth story; it’s a defining moment in life. Some stories are joyful and easy, some are difficult, trying, tearful. Each emotion is real, valid, and needs to be addressed, in order to heal and move on. I’d say this is particularly true for a mother who planned her birth to be natural, who felt like she’d dotted all the i’s and crossed all the t’s, but whose birth didn’t turn out the way she’d hoped. When you’ve done “everything right” and things don’t go as planned, a shoulder to cry on, a non-judgmental ear to listen is so very important.

     

    - - - - -

     

    The truth is, current birth climate in the US is a challenge.  Birth in the media is still most often depicted as scary, icky, and unnatural. Misinformation and assumptions about the benefits/dangers of natural and/or homebirth birth versus hospital and/or surgical birth are rampant, and the number of cesarean sections is still growing. Advocating for natural birth is necessary; I want my own children to be able to make empowering choices about the direction of their/partner’s future births (if they so choose); I want them to have even better experiences with birth than I did. But to get there, we need positive change. Commentary on what a mom did “wrong” in birth isn’t useful, it isn’t helpful, it isn’t advocacy. It’s hurtful, it’s shameful. The last thing we need in this world is more judgment. You want to see change in the birthing world? It doesn’t come from negativity folks; it doesn’t come from divisiveness. It comes from unity, from sharing our stories, understanding others’ points of view, using your experiences to educate, accepting differences of opinion and experience, listening, empathizing, and learning from one another. Every birthing mother has the right to feel good about her birth; it’s an amazing moment in time; whether it occurred in the birthing tub in your own home, or under the bright lights of the OR.

     

    Words are powerful. Choose them carefully.

    Posted: Nov 01 2011, 15:40 by kelly | Comments (40) RSS comment feed |
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    Crunchy Con Mommy United States said:

    Crunchy Con MommyGreat post! I'm sort of in the same boat as you-I had a c-section with my son, but am a fan and advocate of natural birth. It's what I was shooting for, and what I hope for if I'm lucky enough to give birth to more kids in the future (if I can find a VBAC supportive doctor, but that's another story!) It is frustrating to sometimes feel judged by other moms, especially when I myself am already disappointed that I didn't get the natural birth I'd hoped for because I believed it would be the healthiest birth for both me and my son! I think the most important part is the asking for help thing. I know some of my relatives who had all natural births didn't really understand why I was being such a bum afterwards. I'm really hoping for a VBAC next time so I can have a quick recovery like they apparently had!

    # November 01 2011, 16:12

    Babe_Chilla Canada said:

    Babe_ChillaThis is a great post!

    I had spent my entire pregnancy obsessing over natural birth. I had the midwives, I had the doula, I had a plan to labour at home until I had to move onto the hospital (spousal compromise), I took the classes and read the books. I was READY.

    My daughter flipped herself over at 36.6 weeks and you know what? Nothing I could do change that.

    I spent 3 solid weeks trying. I stood on my head in the pool every night, I did acupuncture, moxibustion, chiropractic, ice up top and warm below...I EVEN had a ECV (or version) done, and she would not switch around. We made the hard choice to have her via c-section because the risks were higher with a vaginal birth and by that point, the birth I wanted was no longer possible anyway.

    I declined my first c-section appointment, because it was 8 days before I was due. The nurse thought my crazy. We ended up having our daughter - doula, midwife AND OB by our sides, in the most peaceful way possible, a day before she was "due". We made it special and memorable, and though I do still have sadness over never once having a contraction, I really feel like we made that birth our own.

    I will add 1 more thing to your list of things not to say, and that is "You're lucky!". I hear this ALL THE TIME from my mother friends who have birthed their children vaginally. That I'm lucky. I didn't have to go through labour, so I should be happy. It's hard and I had it easy, and so I shouldn't wish I didn't. Never mind that I was actually excited to experience labour, or that I feel strange as a mother who has never ever contracted. Never mind that I cried for days on end about having to decide on a surgery or the fact that I don't care how hard labour is, I just wanted to know what it was like.

    I am extremely lucky that my child was born healthy, and that I recovered. However, telling me I'm lucky I haven't had to experience child birth is not helping me any.

    # November 01 2011, 17:08

    Fine and Fair United States said:

    Fine and FairThank you so much for this. <3

    When it was determined that my daughter would most likely be born by cesarean birth (I prefer "cesarean birth" to "c-section", myself), I was devastated. The hospital staff was quick with the "It's no big deal, we do them every day!" and "As long as you have a healthy baby, that's the most important thing!" comments, neither of which were comforting to me.

    I was fortunate in that I had some time to prepare, since I declined to schedule her birth in the absence of immediate danger. I waited until I went into labor naturally, which gave me the opportunity to write a Cesarean Birth Plan. On the day I gave birth by cesarean, the hospital staff was very respectful and followed my plan as closely as possible.

    If anyone is interested in seeing it to help mamas in a similar situation, my full Cesarean Birth Plan is here:

    fineandfair.blogspot.com/.../...ning-part-two.html

    As my daughter's birthday approaches (next week!) I relive a lot of the emotions and feelings of loss and failure that I experienced leading up to her birth. Your post couldn't have come at a better time. <3

    # November 01 2011, 18:40

    Vivien United States said:

    VivienI love this post- thank you so much!

    I am a mother and also a doula in training, so this post has touched me in many different ways. I gave birth to my daughter vaginally and my son via c-section. While I am still saddened that I wasn't able to experience the natural birth I had so wanted and prepared myself for, I am also grateful that I was able to experience both kinds of birthing. Hopefully, it will help me become a better doula...

    # November 01 2011, 21:37

    melissa United States said:

    melissai love this post.  my first child was born via caesarean.  the doctors estimated his weight was going to be 13 pounds and didn't feel it was safe to give birth vaginally.  he was 9 lbs 11 oz.  a big baby, yes.  my last 2 births were vaginally.  i felt no different about giving birth caesarean as i did vaginally because my school of thought was...these things had to get out somehow.  i didn't feel like a failure because i had a c-section and i don't recall anyone saying anything stupid to me, if they did...i completely blocked it.

    i did find, though, that people were more patient and attentive with me after a caesarean because of the major surgery aspect of it.  vaginally, i felt that people assumed it was a no brainer, people do it every day and let's move on shall we.  

    anyways, like the previous commenter, i'm grateful that i was able to experience both ways of giving birth.  i am able to relate to so many birth stories, hear them and feel them because i experienced both.

    wonderful post!

    # November 01 2011, 22:27

    Emily Canada said:

    EmilyThis is fantastic. I'm a doula-in-training, though not yet a mom, and I appreciate every little bit I can learn about every aspect about birth. It's important to know how to make cesarian births special, and what you can do to make them the best possible birth experience. I will keep all of your points in mind.

    # November 01 2011, 23:54

    Kristen United States said:

    KristenFabulous post!  I think what you so rightly point out here is that it is up to a MOTHER to determine how she processes and understands her birth.  And it's up to everyone else to help and support her in whatever way she needs (without imposing their own birth philosophies or even their thoughts about their own births onto her.)

    # November 02 2011, 10:23

    Desirre Andrews United States said:

    Desirre AndrewsI am a 2VBA2C mother of four sons. I have been on both ends of birth totally natural and ending in cesarean. I agree the use of words and being discerning is so important to the receiver. They can be affirming or destructive. One experience does not beget the same experience even with the same experience even with the same delivery outcome. Some women say it is a birth, others do not. It really is in the mind of the beholder to decide what it is. I never ever put value on the word. I say cesarean plain and simple. A woman and her children do reserve the right to name it for themselves.Thank you for writing this piece to give women some peace.......

    # November 02 2011, 19:07

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    # November 03 2011, 08:32

    kelly @kellynaturally United States said:

    kelly @kellynaturallyI just wanted to thank ALL of you for sharing your stories with me... I appreciate - so. much. - hearing your perspective on this.

    "it is up to a MOTHER to determine how she processes and understands her birth." AND "woman and her children do reserve the right to name it for themselves." <-- Yes, this is just what I'm trying to say here!

    @Fine and Fair - thank you for sharing your cesarean birth plan!

    # November 04 2011, 10:39

    Kate Mullen United States said:

    Kate MullenBut there is substantial research to show that a) a c-section isn't likely to be the Mother's choice. It tends to be the DR's decision (he/she doesn't want to spend 30 hours laboring/doesn't want to work at 3am/wants to go on vacation.) Therefore, that isn't natural birth. It is birth by means of societal pressure and convenience. It is surgery. If a baby isn't meant to be born then it wouldn't happen naturally. People don't believe in abortion but then the claim to not believe in natural selection. If a woman can't birth naturally then so be it. I don't mean to offend anyone and I know that this statement will. It is not meant as a personal attack on anyone or any child...simply a one little ole me stating my opinion.

    # November 15 2011, 19:13

    kelly @kellynaturally United States said:

    kelly @kellynaturally@Kate - I'm not arguing that a cesarean birth is a natural birth. But it *is* a birth. And to call it less than that (via saying things like, "well, you didn't really give birth, you had a surgery") IS devaluing birth, women, and the birthing mother's experience.

    # November 15 2011, 19:17

    Amanda United States said:

    AmandaLike so many Mamas before me - thank you for this post! I labored for 24 hours, pushing for 4 with every angle exhausted before they decided my first daughter was sunny side up and couldn't turn because my hips weren't wide enough for her. Any other method of "natural" birth - forceps or the vacuum - would have caused her serious harm, so they took her safely. I didn't want surgery, but I wanted her safe.

    With our second, they scheduled a c-section after long months of encouraging me about a VBAC. The docs all finally agreed that my hips hadn't widened that much since #1 and didn't want me to go through the same thing again. So, I decided to make it more of a positive experience and donated my placenta (which can ONLY be done with a scheduled C-Section).

    We are no less of a Mother because of how we give birth. If everyone comes out healthy and educated decisions were made, all that matters is that life happened!

    # December 09 2011, 20:43

    Meg United States said:

    MegI truly appreciate this.  Everything I read, practice & so forth all would have had me give birth vaginally.  I have been having a hard time recently b/c so many things I read are anti-cesarean & I too had 2.  My 1st pregnancy I had 2 rare complications, both are 1% of pregnancies, that made me high risk that I learned of at 29 weeks when I luckily was able to avoid an emergency c-section.  I had such a horrible experience getting my spinal as they hit a nerve & it wasn't working.  I cried & wished I was having my son vaginally, but I knew this was the only way he'd safely be born as both complications affected the placenta.  He was such a fighter throughout the pregnancy & was determined to be here it seemed.  My 2nd was done to avoid 1 of the complications as it tends to repeat in labor & so labor was to be avoided.  I was petrified to have the repeat c/s b/c of my prior experience.  I was convinced I was going to die.  I ran the risk of dying if I would have had a v-birth as well, but a c/s again would determine my daughter's safe arrival.  Dad had lost 2 with ex, so there was no way I'd selfishly run the risk of him losing another, they're his babies too.  Initially it didn't bother me that I had 2 c/s like it does now.  I was watching a show where a mom gave birth & I realized I missed out on something & I'm sad about it.  I would love to have a home VBAC if I had another, but I know my high risk history would never allow b/c no midwife would support it & neither would Dad.

    # December 09 2011, 22:40

    Shannon Mitchell United States said:

    Shannon MitchellI think you also need to respect the women that say,

    I didn't give birth, I had surgery.

    There was nothing about my surgery that was a birth *for me*, though it was my daughter being born.

    # December 09 2011, 23:30

    Very Bloggy Beth United States said:

    Very Bloggy BethGood read, thank you. When I was having my son, there was a short window of time when his heart rate kept dropping, and they thought they might need to do an emergency C-section. I ended up delivering vaginally with no real issue. I have always been ever so grateful that they were patient with me, and I didn't end up having the C-section. But, I'm always careful not to devalue a woman's experience that had one. When I say I'm glad I didn't have one, I'm not saying that it's unfortunate that she had one nor am I saying my birth experience was better than hers in any way. But, is it ok to still wish women weren't having C-sections on purpose?

    # May 19 2012, 12:06

    Joy Canada said:

    JoyI've had three kids. The first was a hospital birth complete with epidural, vacuum and episiotomy. Second was hospital with no epidural and a tear and third was a homebirth. I can't say how your words would affect a woman who has had a c-section and if they'd truly be comforting, given that I've never been there, but I do think a lot of you for taking it into consideration. It infuriates me when women sit around and monday morning quarterback other women's births. They consider themselves birth experts despite not being a midwife, doctor, nurse or doula and have the audacity to sit and judge all in the name of "information`` or `education" which is ridiculous since they should first be honouring the woman`s experience and actually LISTENING and not sitting judging or assuming that the woman hasn`t thought all the alternatives through and still in light of all the `holy grail of birthing` went forward with a c-section because at the time, they felt it was the safest option for the baby. It`s like me wandering up to a free range parent and offering up a bunch of statistics about kids being abducted or killed and assuming they haven`t made an informed choice about parenting.

    Anyhow, needless to say its a hot topic with me, I thought what you said needs to be repeated until folks get it, thanks for saying it!

    # June 16 2012, 08:02

    Kicking Horse Kelly Canada said:

    Kicking Horse KellyI have had three births, first two vaginally (2nd completely natural) and third ECS. I agree with Shannon and I agree with Kate. I think when we sugar coat this phenomenon of increasing cesareans, we contribute to the problem. NONE of this is the mother's fault and NO ONE should feel guilty, but facts are facts and cesareans are SURGERIES and come with a lot of complications (short and long term...). They are NOT just another way of giving birth and when we start to think of them as such we are on a very dangerous line. I DO NOT think of my son's arrival as a birth. It wasn't a birth. He was yanked and pulled from me and it was the most horrific and unnatural thing that has ever happened to me.
    Breech deliveries have become uncommon, not because they are so much more dangerous, but because practitioners have no experience with delivering a breech SAFELY and therefore resort to surgery. Breech is just another variation of normal and many recent studies have shown that a breech vaginal birth is JUST AS safe as a Cesarean delivery. A mom should have the choice period.
    We are due with number 4 in 5 weeks. She is currently in breech and I am hoping she will turn. If she does not, I am still insisting on a TOLAC. I realize it will likely end in surgery if she doesn't turn, but I believe in giving her the chance to try. The risks of scheduled sections prior to dates is alarming, and recent studies on neuro-development show some major concerns with that. Having a live baby matters, yes, but having a healthy and happy mom and baby matters also.
    When I speak THE TRUTH, I am not trying to belittle anyone, I am just trying to elucidate and educate other women about what a cesarean really is and the implications for mom and baby. Not all cesarean births go as well as yours did. 12% of women will be in chronic pain for the rest of their lives because of these 'births'. Speaking the truth loud and clear is the best way to try to slow this train-wreck of medicalized birth in North America.

    # September 19 2012, 12:41

    kelly @kellynaturally United States said:

    kelly @kellynaturallyHi Kelly,  Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I agree with you that cesareans ARE sugeries, and I never sugar-coat that. As I wrote:

    "Here’s the truth. The increase in cesarean sections is alarming. Cesarean sections present dangers for mothers and babies that just aren’t there in natural births. Advocacy for natural birth needs to continue.  Work needs to carry on to help women feel empowered in their decision-making surrounding their own births, to increase the number of doulas and midwives available to assist women in birth, and to make home-birthing a safe and legal option for women."

    My effort in writing this was not to lessen the severity of surgical birth and all that entails, but rather, to empower and support women who have to or choose to birth via cesarean section. I support sharing truthful statistics, and voicing our experiences and validating others' (just as you feel your son's cesarean birth was not a birth, I feel my childrens' cesarean births most definitely WERE births - both of us are right), and disseminating ideas on how we can improve individual womens' birth experiences, and the birth situation as a whole in our country. Helping mothers to make an empowered and educated decision about THEIR OWN births is beneficial.  

    But there is NOTHING to be gained by shaming or blaming. In order to effect change, we need to be at once compassionate, empathetic, AND informative.

    # September 19 2012, 12:55

    kelly @kellynaturally United States said:

    kelly @kellynaturallyKelly, I also wanted to share with you my post on breech babies. Both of mine were breech; perhaps this might be of help to you. Congratulations on your soon-to-be earthside babe!

    www.kellynaturally.com/.../...g-a-Breech-Baby.aspx

    # September 19 2012, 13:00

    Kicking Horse Kelly Canada said:

    Kicking Horse KellyThat is actually the post that brought me to your blog.lol. A friend posted it on my facebook page.

    Sometimes I find it hard to be compassionate and empathetic towards moms who choose csections, just as I find it hard to understand why someone would choose formula. There are so many women who want so badly to have a natural birth and cannot. A cesarean carries such a high risk for mom and baby...I just struggle with anyone 'choosing' this and validating that choice. I don't wish to dis-empower anyone...but at the same time I do want to make people think long and hard about birth and the lasting effects it entails. I think what I really would like to see is TRULY informed consent, which does not exist in the current birth paradigm.

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